Then how can UPS compete with the US Postal Service that is offering its service at the same quality and lower cost?If no private business can compete with a government run business then how is UPS competing with USPS?
right, let's see UPS or FedEx deliver the mail to every home in america 6 days a week. oh that's right, it's called, cherry picking.
Absolutey , Lets see if UPS or FedEx could deliver the mail to every home in America 6 days a week. I can assure you that they COULD! better, cheaper and faster. If you stipulated that it was part of the deal, all or nothing. No cherry picking, as Obama said they would. It would be a win-win!
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If no private business can compete with a government run business then how is UPS competing with USPS?But but but but Rush said so!!!
They will merge with Fed Ex and together they will be named "FedUp"If no private business can compete with a government run business then how is UPS competing with USPS?
That's an argument for keeping the current system, not creating ObamaCare. Why should our taxes shoot up to pay for a $1.3 trillion boondoggle when you admit it won't be effective?
BECAUSE
The usps is so so poorly run, it makes me cry
also the unions have destroyed it with their pay demands
AND demand for mail has lessened, and the govmt didn't downsize at the right time, they continued the operations as if it were 1999, and not 2009, so they had all this extra workforce and not that much mail/parcels. Now it has all cought up to them, and its forcing them into bankruptcy
THANK YOU! SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT! I have made this argument many times, with the most intelligent response being "go drink kool-aid" They just don't want to hear it.
Don't forget FEDex and DHL. People hear what they want to hear
USPS was self supporting at one time. The internet killed the paper sent.
So what do we do now? Well, just like everything else, the taxpayers pick up the tab.
what about Amtrak
If UPS lost money year after year, they'd be bankrupt, no? Notice that USPS continues to operate, even though they're losing money. How can they afford to do that? Three guesses... TAX PAYERS!
UPS handles packages, while the bulk of the mail that goes the Postal Service is correspondence, bills, and advertisements.
Analogies actually have to fit in order to work.
BTW. The Postal Service has lots millions of dollars in the last few months alone. Is that how you want health care?
USPS still retains its government imposed monopoly for first-class delivery. Take that last thumb off the competition scale and the USPS will be gone in a year
Or public and private schools, public and private police forces, public and private special ops in and outside of the military. Never once has the right whined about blackwater using our tax dollars to wage war.
Keep up with news right now their trying to pass a bill to stop delivery on Saturdays and if I'm not mistaken the price of stamps keep going up -isn't healthcare suppose to lower prices so your making a good point not to go with gov't healthcare!
I think you forgot about Fedex too. Truth be told USPS was a government controlled Business before Fedex or UPS came along. Now USPS is finding it hard to stay open. I think the price of mailing thing in the US is a bit high. However, I seen places where it would be a lot higher if we didn't have them.
Hitch: What your saying is at least my Health care won't send me a letter saying we don't cover that because it's too expensive right?
Here's what Obama's LAME comparison didn't include. Taken from the following article.
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/11/obam鈥?/a>
1.) The U.S. Post Office is the only entity allowed by federal law to deliver first class mail to your mailbox. In fact, Fedex and UPS are strictly prohibited from delivering "non-urgent" letters. If the government can fairly compete and is setting fair rules, wouldn't the post office be open to competition at your mailbox?
2.) If Americans were offered "free" postage paid for by massive government spending and tax hikes, would Fedex and UPS still exist?
3.) The Post Office is on track to lose a staggering $7 billion this year alone. How will a government-run health care plan manage taxpayer resources more efficiently?
4.) Postmaster General John Potter says he lacks the "tools" necessary to run the Post Office effectively like a business. Would a government-run health care system have the tools it needs to run as effectively as the private sector entities it is replacing?
5.) On the one hand, the President remarks how great his public health care plan will be. On the other hand, he notes it won't be good enough to crowd out your private insurance, i.e. the Post Office comparison. So which is it Mr. President? Will it be so great that private insurance disappears or so awful that it isn't worth creating in the first place?
6.) But the most important question is this: if you have an urgent piece of mail you need delivered, life or death, who are you going to call? Everyone saying the government...please raise your hands. (crickets)
Because UPS isn't a real competitor. UPS deals mainly with packages and rarely with letters. Also, the government knows that private insurance companies will do better than a government plan. If a hospital takes private insurance, than there will continue to be better care for the rich. It's just to cripple to insurance companies which I'm certain will not harm the economy one bit. %26lt;/sarcasm%26gt;
The government is clearly NOT capable of running Death Panels! Running Death Panels should clearly be left in the hands of private sector Insurance executives.
the USPS is run like a business. That's the way it was set up. It was the ONLY government program set up by the founding fathers, by the way. It is not funded by income tax dollars. You pay for the USPS only when you use their services.
A more apt comparison would be education. You have publicly funded schools "competing" with private schools. Everyone pays for public schools, regardless of whether or not they use them. As a result, the only people who can afford to use the private schools are those that can afford to pay twice for education, because their tax dollars still go to the public schools. The same thing will happen with health insurance. Most employers aren't going to pay twice for the same service. They will dump the private plans and tell their employees to sign up for the public plan. If the private insurance companies survive, it will only be the rich who will be able to afford them.
UPS and the Postal Service are about as similar in what they do as a hang glider and an F-18. They are both overnight and multi-day shippers but they don't do the same kinds of product delivery. There's a hell of a lot of difference between freight and mail. I know because I work for a competitor to UPS.
The Postal Service is losing money because it is a government run business with a huge payroll, benefits, and bureaucracy. UPS operates lean and without frills.
Well its over !00 years old and grew steadily for the last hundred years . It is not in direct competition with the post office either . In fact the post office has on occasion used UPS for bulk transportation . UPS is not a mail delivery service . Its a package delivery service . So If I wanted my sears catalogue delivered or my news week delivered the UPS company might distribute it to the local U.S.postal branch ,but not to each house on the block .
More money is made in bulk high dollar package delivery service then door to door .
The Postal service....yeah ..........its (mostly) a private company
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