Wednesday, February 29, 2012

Conservatives, why do you think a Public Option will put private Health Care Insurance out of business?

Did the United States Postal Service put Fedex or UPS out of business?



The two options can co-exist and the competition will help to lower the cost of Health Care.Conservatives, why do you think a Public Option will put private Health Care Insurance out of business?
Brilliant!

The truth is the GOP thugs hate competition.
"the GOP thugs hate competition"

Sure, that's why there are hundreds of insurance companies selling medical.

You two deserve each other.

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Conservatives, why do you think a Public Option will put private Health Care Insurance out of business?
Michael Moore even believes it..



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If you are an employer, and you have the choice of either paying for health insurance for your employees, or paying a cheaper fee to the government and telling your employees to go get on the government's plan, which would you do?



And when most of the employers in the United States have stopped offering health insurance, not enough people will be left to buy private health insurance to make private insurance companies worth staying in business. Private health insurance companies will go out of business, and then who is left to provide your health care?



A Single Payer called the US Government, that's who.



Wake the hell up. A so-called Public Option is not intended to lower the cost of health care or to co-exist with private health care insurance. The Public Option is DESIGNED to put private health care insurance out of business and place a Democrat-dominated Federal Government as the sole remaining provider of health care in the United States in perpetuity.



A government that controls your health care also controls you.Conservatives, why do you think a Public Option will put private Health Care Insurance out of business?
The USPS isn't subsidized by the taxpayers, so they can't afford to undercut Fedex of UPS.



The only way I would support a public option is if its budget is limited to whatever fees it takes in from the people who use it. No taxation of nonusers, no deficit spending.



If government care is as good as Democrats claim, people will flock to it, and it will sustain itself. If it's as bad as Republicans claim, it will wither and die.
Apples and oranges:



Health care will remain expensive, whether government run or state run, until some of the causes of the expenses are controlled. Is there anything in this 1,100 page bill about tort reform? Is there anything in this bill about encouraging people to go into the medical profession, so that people in rural areas can actually see a doctor?



Maybe there are things that address these issues, and others like them, but I am skeptical.
First, you are comparing apples to oranges. The Post Office existed BEFORE UPS and long before FedEx, therefore, these companies fulfilled service niches that the Post Office did not offer or do as effectively. Your analogy is based on a false premise.



Second, to understand true competition, you have to have a level playing field. Government run ANYTHING means no accountability to cost overruns. Show me a successful government run program, and I'll show you a private contractor that does it for them.



Third, the health care that Congressional members have is not government run. They all have health care with private providers, which we the taxpayers pay for. And this is not what is being offer to the General Public as the "Public Option". Not even close.
Your comparison is apples and oranges.



If Fed Ex and UPS were required to offer competing daily 1st class mail route delivery, with the same union guarantees enjoyed by the USPS employees - they would quickly be out of business.



Unless.. they could actually do that job more efficiently than the USPS.. wait a minute - I may be onto something here!



Nah.. Like the Post Office - the Public Option would be shielded from competition by the private sector. They would consistently be able to offer lower prices because they're not required to post a profit.



But - like Walmart taking out local businesses - once the competition is gone - you'd be stuck with the Public No Option. And from that seed grows the weed of healthcare rationing.
No. UPS and Fedex survived because they are far more efficient than the Postal Service at tracking and delivering packages. The Postal Service has a government-imposed monopoly on 1st Class mail. Otherwise, at current rates, they'd be dead meat. Instead, users and taxpayers are overcharged, and money that could have gone for investment in more productive enterprises (all of which, are, by nature, in the private sector.)



If one reads the House bill you'll see that it is designed to 1) force the public "option" on people who change jobs or contracts; and 2) ultimately mandate levels of payment to suppliers of health care ---which like Medicare, means below the cost to the supplier---so the private sector will have to pay far more to make up the difference, and 3) the Government program will never have to break-even, because it can just print more money or tax people more.



It is designed specifically to gradually push control of each individual's health into the jurisdiction of the Almighty Federal Government. The 10th Amendment exists for a reason, and this is one of them.



Wage and price controls after WWII, Medicare and Medicaid, have removed free market competition in this industry for decades, thus actually raising costs by artificial government involvement.



We blame the HMO's, Insurance Companies, etc., for higher medical costs (never trial lawyers), all of whom exist because of previous government mandates, but this entire situation is a bit like shooting your dog in the leg and then blaming it for not fetching the morning paper.



Kinda like blaming Wall Street for the damage caused by the Community Reinvestment Act.



Some of us just don't trust State Capitalists anymore.
Artificially low rates that non-health exchange companies can't compete with and unreasonable regulation by the government.



For an example look at the effects of property insurance in Florida. Since creating a taxpayer funded insurance option, the private companies have started bailing out. They drop customers or refuse to renew. Thank you Gov. Crist.
Case in point:

California, my home, enacted legislation many years ago that required employers to carry insurance for employees in case they were hurt on the job - Workers Compensation Insurance. This was already the law when I went into business in 1979, so I bought worker's comp insurance from an agent along with general liability and vehicle insurance.



Business owners complained about the excessive cost of this insurance, so the State came up with an alternative plan called the State Compensation Fund. I knew it was out there, but I liked my agent and was happy with my insurance. One day, I received a letter that Farmers would no longer be offering workers comp in California. My agent switched me to another insurance company I'd never heard of and all was well. Eventually, they left too. I was unable to find insurance at this point except the State Compensation Fund seemed to be alive and well. That is where my coverage is today.



A quick Google search for "Workers comp California" revealed a page full of attorneys and the State Compensation Fund, but no private insurance companies.



That, my friend, is the "single payer" risk we face.



Will it happen? I don't honestly know, but it could. Obama's plan wouldn't put us there, if he sticks to it, but other presidents are going to follow and who knows what they'll do? And don't forget, Pelosi has a lock on her House position as long as she wants it. No one in San Francisco would ever vote her out. They've been communists since the 1960s.
Because the private sector can not compete with the government. The government has an infinite supply of money, or so the democrats think anyway, and they can pass laws that require doctors to get paid $10 an hour. A private insurance company can not do that.
Read the bill, the way its written the public option will override any private health insurance. The "public option" would very soon be the only one available.
Because a private business needs to make a profit, one that is subsidized by taxpayers does not , therefore eliminating the actual competition .
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A simple addon to any bill would guarentee that it would not, but no Democrtas wants to include that..ergo..Public Option is inteded to put private Health Care Insurance out of business
USPS should of been out of business it doesn't make a profit it loses 7 billion a year. FEDEX and UPS makes profits what about Amtrak how many private passenger trains are out there since the govt owns Amtrak
They also claim the public option would fail..

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